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Thanks for reading the Ottawa Playbook. Let’s get to it.

In today's edition:

→ Our Washington colleagues get a taste of Champagne.

→ Sober second thinkers resume debate on a sweeping set of rule changes.

→ We want your Hill-adjacent coffee meeting strategies.

HALLWAY CONVERSATION

François-Philippe Champagne at the Paris Air Show.

"We have lived through both administrations and we know how to make the best out of it," says Industry Minister François-Philippe Champagne. | Julie Glassberg/POLITICO

TALKING TO AMERICANS — The music was thumping, the glasses were clinking and FRANÇOIS-PHILIPPE CHAMPAGNE was in the garden talking passionately about critical minerals.

The industry minister visited Washington for a series of meetings that included the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, where he sat at a POLITICO table.

POLITICO's ALEX BURNS spoke with Champagne on the sidelines of a weekend event. We've pulled out some highlights of a conversation that spanned election-watching, that time the minister ran into DONALD TRUMP at a NATO confab, and the merit of having a business mind running the show in Ottawa.

Read the full interview here.

Have you had any contact with the Trump team at this point? And what would you like Donald Trump to know about you?

I've been talking to a number of people on both sides. First of all, we were there during the last Trump administration. We were there during the Biden administration. So, we know people on both sides. I would like President Trump to think, when he thinks about Canada, in terms of strategic opportunity …

I mean you personally. I don’t mean, what would you like him to think about Canada? What would you like him to know about you?

Well, he’s met me before. I don’t know if he would — he might remember. The first time we met was in London, at the U.K. ambassador residence at the NATO summit. I think he was pretty intrigued with a name like Champagne. I can’t exactly remember the words he said, but I think it sparked his interest at least for a few seconds.

It strikes me — and I understand that this is just part of your wiring, and certainly part of your portfolio — but it strikes me that you are sort of speaking Trump’s language.

It’s the first time I’ve heard that.

Last thing. Do you think it would be helpful to Canada, under a Trump administration, to have a prime minister who is really anchored in the business world and economic development? To have a businessman as head of government — would that be helpful in a Trump administration?

I think that the prime minister has been building a relationship with the U.S. administration for a number of years. And what our friends downtown in Washington should remember: You have the most experienced team that you can find in Ottawa, because we have lived through both administrations and we know how to make the best out of it. I think, for me, the 21st century belongs to North America, so let’s build it together.

 

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DRIVING THE DAY

THE OTHER PLACE — Senators are poised to debate the chamber's rules. The proposed amendments are either long-overdue reflections of an evolving Senate or opposition-stifling measures forced through by a desperate government.

It depends who you ask.

Most senators appointed by JUSTIN TRUDEAU, and a bunch of others who sit in various parliamentary groups, favor the changes. Conservatives oppose them fiercely. At the heart of the debate is who gets a say in how the chamber does its business.

— An awkward era: The way MARC GOLD tells it, the new rules would reflect a longstanding call for change to accommodate a new reality.

The government representative in the Senate says the status quo is built for the “duopoly” of Liberals and Conservatives who filled the place for decades.

There aren't officially many of either anymore. Trudeau doesn’t allow senators in his caucus, and Conservative numbers have dwindled to 13.

These days, most senators don't sit in a party caucus. They sit in three groups that formed since 2016. The Canadian Senators Group and Progressive Senate Group are led by leaders chosen from the ranks. The less-centralized Independent Senators Group is facilitated by a facilitator. But the rules, Gold says, are built for government and opposition alone.

The sweeping changes would expand debate time for the other parliamentary groups, and give them new influence in the chamber's business and agenda.

— Rewind the clock: Six years ago, a special committee on modernization published a call for equality among parliamentary groups — the group's 13th report in two years. There have been other efforts, says Gold: "A lot of good thinking and reports, but not very much action."

In 2022, the government amended the Parliament of Canada Act to grant some new powers to the emerging groups, including consultations on new officers of Parliament. But last year, a Senate committee couldn't agree on a slate of new rules.

Which brings us to the current motion — a government motion — which takes precedence over non-government business and forces debate in the full chamber.

— Tory opposition: Expect targeted interventions from Conservative senators who consider enhanced powers for any government-appointed senators a dilution of opposition powers.

DON PLETT brings broad-based rhetorical heat. DENISE BATTERS challenges the independence of Trudeau appointees. CLAUDE CARIGNAN poses technical questions in the weeds of the rules.

In an interview with Playbook, Batters insisted the new rules would crowd out speaking time for any senators who aren't in leadership positions, diminishes senators who aren't affiliated with any group, and reduces the opposition's ability to question witnesses at committee.

The Conservative list of grievances runs longer. They don't have the votes, but they will drag out debate as long as possible. Their view is the Westminster system's integrity is at stake.

GOLD'S WORLD — One of the Conservatives’ major beefs with Gold is their perception that he is a Trudeau puppet. Playbook asked the Senate’s government rep to contextualize his role in the parliamentary milieu.

He’s a bit of a unicorn, so it took a few minutes.

— This, not that: Gold is not a member of Cabinet, though he is a member of the Privy Council and does attend the Cabinet committee on operations. He isn't a member of a political party, but has donated to several over the years. He doesn't sit in the Liberal caucus, though he does vote for government legislation.

The longtime law prof likens the government to a legal client. Gold splits his job into two parts:

→ A legislative shepherd who negotiates the debate, study and votes on government bills.

→ A Senate whisperer who advises the government on the “mood of the Senate, what the Senate needs by way of time to study bills,” and “what the government might expect by way of amendments” to its legislation.

→ Donation history: Conservatives tar Gold as a Liberal shill. His record is a bit of a rainbow, though he hasn’t given money to a party or candidate since he was appointed in 2016.

Search "Marc Gold" in Elections Canada's database and you'll find contributions to Liberals, Conservatives, the NDP and the Bloc Québécois. (He has also donated provincially to the Parti Québécois.)

→ Retirement watch: Gold's run as a senator could time neatly to the election cycle. He turns 75 on June 30, 2025, shortly after the last moment Parliament could adjourn before the summer.

Where the leaders are

— Prime Minister JUSTIN TRUDEAU will chair Cabinet at 10 a.m. and QP at 2 p.m.

— Deputy PM CHRYSTIA FREELAND will attend Cabinet. She'll hold a news conference on "the government's economic plan" alongside Housing Minister SEAN FRASER, Families Minister JENNA SUDDS and Industry Minister FRANÇOIS-PHILIPPE CHAMPAGNE.

— Conservative Leader PIERRE POILIEVRE will make morning remarks at the Canada’s Building Trades Unions annual conference.

— NDP Leader JAGMEET SINGH makes 10 a.m. remarks at the Canada’s Building Trades Union annual conference. At 7 p.m., Singh delivers the 2024 Carleton Bell Lecture at the Carleton Dominion-Chalmers Centre.

— Green Party Leader ELIZABETH MAY joins New Brunswick Indigenous Leaders at a 10:30 a.m. press conference on nuclear waste in their communities. At 11:30 a.m., May will join a presser calling for a foreign influence transparency registry.

DULY NOTED

— The Canadian Chamber of Commerce hosts a one-day conference at the Château Laurier on “securing the future of advanced manufacturing.” Speakers include Trade Minister MARY NG, CIBC vice chair LISA RAITT and Canada's Chief Trade Commissioner SARA WILSHAW.

— The Parliamentary Budget Officer publishes a new report: "Budget 2024: Issues for Parliamentarians."

JERRY DEMARCO, Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development, delivers his 2024 spring reports at approximately 10 a.m. A pair of parliamentary secretaries, ADAM VAN KOEVERDEN and JULIE DABRUSIN, will respond to the audits at 12:40 p.m.

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TALK OF THE TOWN

COFFEE CALL-OUT — Playbook wants to know where you drink coffee (or tea, or whatever gets you through the day). Where is the best drip on or near the Hill? Where do you go in hopes of seeing a regular for an impromptu convo? What's the best spot for a discreet conversation? Where do you go if you want to be seen? (OK, the answer to that last one is Little Victories.)

We want to hear from everybody in the fishbowl. Spill your coffee secrets. Our inbox is open.

TRIVIAL PURSUIT — We're revving our engines for the fifth round in our First Annual POLITICO Canada Trivia Cup.

— Calling all parliamentarians: We are now recruiting MPs, senators and their geekiest and keenest staff for May 6 at the Met. We have plenty of space. Just cook up a team name and recruit your sharpest colleagues.

— Signing up is easy: RSVP to the quizmaster today!

 

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MEDIA ROOM

— Top of CBC NEWS this hour: Scientists warn Canada 'way behind the virus' as bird flu explodes among U.S. dairy cattle.

This'll get government critics talking: "Ottawa plans to launch controversial firearms buyback program during election year," from Rad-Can's DANIEL LEBLANC and LOUIS BLOUIN.

— “Last summer’s record-setting fire season, bookended by the fires in urban Halifax and the horrors of the Lahaina fire in Maui, was a palpable shift for many of us,” EVA HOLLAND writes in The Walrus. “In the North, that shock may have been especially acute.”

— On the "SmartLess" pod featuring three — three — U.S. presidents, BARACK OBAMA had this to say about America's northern neighbors: "Canadians are interesting because they sneak up on you. Remember that movie 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'? They look like us, but you don't really know." (JOE BIDEN and BILL CLINTON also guested.)

— Le Droit reports on federal plans to mandate a three-day in-person workweek for public servants. Treasury Board wouldn't confirm the plan when CTV News came knocking.

— “For the good of the Liberal party, Trudeau needs to think about his future,” Globe columnist JOHN IBBITSON writes.

— On “The Daily” podcast, JONATHAN SWAN, MAGGIE HABERMAN and CHARLIE SAVAGE explore what a second Trump presidency would look like.

PROZONE

Don’t miss our latest newsletter for Pro subscribers: A G7 deal to end coal.

In other news for Pros:

ChatGPT’s hallucinations draw EU privacy complaint.

How Trump 2.0 could transform the U.S. Department of Energy.

Azerbaijan president: COP29 won’t stop us investing in “god-given” gas.

Trump, Biden spar over US energy independence.

Biden delaying plan to ban menthol cigarettes.

PLAYBOOKERS

Birthdays: HBD to former PM STEPHEN HARPER (65), retired Maj. Gen. LEWIS MACKENZIE, Liberal MP PETER FRAGISKATOS, former MPs DANIEL TURP, DAVE NICKERSON (80) and ALEXANDRINE LATENDRESSE (40).

Celebrate your day with the Playbook community. Send us the details. We’ll let everyone know. 

Spotted: The Star’s SUSAN DELACOURT, back on Twitter … again … Conservative MP MICHELLE REMPEL GARNER, who witnessed a weekend of tornado outbreaks in Oklahoma: “Hope is born through the love of people who care for strangers.”

Ontario Premier DOUG FORD, back in Ottawa and holding a welcome mat with Mayor MARK SUTCLIFFE. Ford opened a "regional office" in Ottawa, where his party holds a pair of seats. He tapped SEAN WEBSTER, who came out on the losing end of a recent byelection, to staff the office … Nature Canada policy director AKAASH MAHARAJ, attending a Green Budget Coalition AGM in a deconsecrated church: "Discussing the federal budget's impact on ecological stewardship in that setting seemed apt: a commingling of the sacred and the profane."

Fertilizer Canada's MATTHEW DON TRAPP, rejoining Army reserves training after suffering a serious leg injury earlier this year.

PIERRE POILIEVRE, drawing 95 donors to his April 11 fundraiser at a private residence in Thornhill, Ont. … Poilievre, netting 58 donors to the Shelter Point Distillery in battleground North Island-Powell River, B.C., where NDP MP RACHEL BLANEY isn't seeking another term … Poilievre, attracting 72 donors to the Tsawwassen Springs golf course in CARLA QUALTROUGH's Delta riding, also a likely Tory pickup if an election were held today.

Employment Minister RANDY BOISSONNAULT, meeting 21 donors at a fundraiser in Edmonton — including former Alberta deputy premier THOMAS LUKASZUK.

Ukraine’s First Deputy Prime Minister YULIA SVYRYDENKO, meeting with Canada’s Ambassador for Women, Peace and Security JACQUELINE O'NEILL.

Japan’s embassy in Canada has named the 2024 recipients of its spring conferment of decorations on foreign nationals to former Sen. MARIE-PAULE CHARETTE-POULIN, founding Business Council of Canada CEO THOMAS D'AQUINO and SACHIKO OKUDA, former president of the Ottawa Japanese Community Association.

Movers and shakers: RON CHHINZER is the Conservative candidate in Oakville East.

Former Bloc Québécois Leader GILLES DUCEPPE is lobbying for Volt-Air Énergies … Crestview's ASHTON ARSENAULT posted a meeting on behalf of Gavi, a global vaccine coalition, with Conservative MP SHUV MAJUMDAR.

MIKE DUHEME was formally appointed as RCMP commissioner. He was first appointed in an interim capacity in March 2023.

Media mentions: CTV news anchor OMAR SACHEDINA has launched the C$10,000 Sachedina/CTV News fellowship to allow a journalism student (or recent grad) to develop an original piece of reporting.

 

A message from Spotify:

The CRTC’s current definition of Canadian content designed for radio may be excluding those Canadian artists who work with a global mindset and are increasingly finding success all around the world.

That includes staples by The Weeknd, Celine Dion or Shania Twain and even new hits like greedy by Calgary-born Tate MacRae, which garnered 860 million plays globally and spent four weeks as the world’s most popular song.

All Canadian, right? Maybe not.

That’s because these songs only fulfill some of the CRTC’s criteria which focuses on songs written, performed or produced almost exclusively by Canadians in Canada.

We think that needs to change.

The CRTC must prioritize its work on redefining Canadian and Indigenous content to ensure it reflects the global nature of today’s music industry.

Read more about Spotify’s position and how we are helping Canadian artists grow their audiences globally in our For The Record blog post.

 
ON THE HILL

Find House committees here.

Keep track of Senate committees here.

9 a.m. The Senate finance committee will study Main Estimates.

9 a.m. The Senate transport and communications committee will take on Bill C-288.

9 a.m. Residential schools survivors will be at the Senate committee on Indigenous Peoples, which will also hear from Manitoba’s chief medical examiner. 9:30 a.m. The Senate rules, procedures and the rights of Parliament committee will meet to discuss rule amendments.

11 a.m. The House science committee will discuss federal funding to Canada’s post-secondary institutions.

11 a.m. The House transport committee will consult academic experts on the state of airline competition.

11 a.m. Former MP KENNY CHIU is among witnesses expected at the House ethics committee to discuss disinformation and of misinformation.

11 a.m. The House finance committee will take Bill C-59 through clause-by-clause consideration.

3:30 p.m. Officials from the environment department will be at the House environment committee for queries on Bill-317.

3:30 p.m. Supply chains and global markets will be the focus of the House international trade committee committee.

3:30 p.m. The House fisheries and oceans committee will hear from witnesses on the sustainability of Yukon salmon.

3:30 p.m. Auditor General KAREN HOGAN is first on the witness list at the House public accounts committee.

6:30 p.m. The joint committee on the Declaration of Emergency has a two-hour meeting on the books, though no set itinerary as yet.

6:30 p.m. The Senate environment committee will hear from Environment and Climate Change Canada on Bill C-226.

Behind closed doors: The House agriculture committee will be at work on its study on stabilizing food prices. The Senate agriculture committee will focus on its study on soil health.

TRIVIA

Monday’s answer: Originally Ottawa’s central train station, the building that now houses the Canadian Senate, was constructed by the Grand Trunk Railway. It was designed by Montreal architectural firm Ross and MacFarlane.

Props to MATT DELISLE, JIM CAMPBELL, SEAN MOORE, LAURA JARVIS, MARCEL MARCOTTE and ROBERT MCDOUGALL. 

Today’s question: What does OGD mean in the Ottawa fishbowl?

Answers to ottawaplaybook@politico.com.

Writing Wednesday’s Ottawa Playbook: ZI-ANN LUM. 

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