Harris relents on muting mics

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As Vice President KAMALA HARRIS walked across the tarmac to board Air Force Two on Wednesday, she ignored shouted questions from reporters traveling with her about how her debate prep was going.

But privately, the team of aides involved in what will be nearly a week of prep in Pittsburgh are somewhat flustered about having failed in their attempts to convince ABC News — which will host the Sept. 10 debate between Harris and DONALD TRUMP — to keep both microphones unmuted throughout the 90-minute debate, undoing one of the rules Trump and President JOE BIDEN’s team agreed to months earlier.

Harris’ team made a public push on the matter last week, when senior adviser for communications BRIAN FALLON acknowledged their efforts to unmute the mics and suggested that Trump’s team “[doesn’t] think their candidate can act presidential for 90 minutes on his own.”

Trump, perhaps aware of the optics, said he was fine with unmuting the mics. But his team — namely senior adviser JASON MILLER, who has been the campaign’s representative in meetings with ABC about the debate — has refused to agree to the rule change, according to a person familiar with the meetings.

That’s left Harris’ debate prep team in some upheaval as it decamps for Pittsburgh. Another person familiar with the group’s private conversations described KAREN DUNN, the long-time Democratic operative who is overseeing the prep sessions along with policy adviser ROHINI KOSOGLU, as “morose” over the network’s muting of Trump’s microphone while Harris is speaking. Dunn, not exactly a prolific tweeter, posted POLITICO’s coverage of the microphone negotiations last week. Twice.

On Wednesday, Fallon sent another letter to executives at ABC accepting the current rules, but still arguing that muted mics will disadvantage Harris, depriving her of the chance to cross-examine Trump, according to a third person familiar with the matter.

The muted mics, Fallon wrote, “will serve to shield Donald Trump from direct exchanges with the Vice President. We suspect this is the primary reason for his campaign's insistence on muted microphones.”

He continued: “We understand that Donald Trump is a risk to skip the debate altogether, as he has threatened to do previously, if we do not accede to his preferred format. We do not want to jeopardize the debate. For this reason, we accept the full set of rules proposed by ABC, including muted microphones.”

In the letter, Fallon also laid out other debate protocols that he believed both campaigns and the network had verbally agreed on, including that moderators would admonish any candidate who interrupts and strive to convey anything said into a muted mic to the broader audience. Additionally, the network may keep both microphones open during a heated back-and-forth and, unlike in the June 27 debate, the press pool should be in the room and close enough to the stage to be able to hear any remarks that are muted for the wider television audience.

Those agreements, the person familiar with the letter said, were important in getting Harris’ team to sign off on the final rules.

The group has already held some mock debate sessions with longtime HILLARY CLINTON aide PHILIPPE REINES playing Trump. But the second person familiar with the campaign’s conversations and thinking suggested that the final, more concentrated debate prep sessions may include an overhaul of Harris’ strategy.

The vice president, the person said, “can’t have her Kavanaugh moment without sound on [the] mic” — a reference to Harris’ interrogation of BRETT KAVANAUGH during his 2018 Supreme Court confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Harris, whose stump speech leans into her work as a prosecutor and her familiarity with Trump’s “type,” had been looking to reprise the kind of direct questioning that bruised Trump’s second Supreme Court pick about the special counsel investigation of the then-president and his stance on reproductive rights.

“Can you think of any laws that give government the power to make decisions about the male body?” she asked in an exchange that went viral.

But directly questioning Trump — whether about his contradictory recent statements on abortion; his familiarity with Project 2025, the hard-right policy template drawn up for a second term by conservative activists and veterans of his first administration; or anything else — may only be possible if ABC allows the candidates to engage in a dialogue that would require both of their microphones being open at the same time.

That’s a big if.

But for all the Harris team’s public and private focus on the microphones, they’re also aware that the pressure is largely on the vice president, a candidate many voters don’t know well facing off against a former president whose personality and aggression on stage are well documented.

In some early expectations-setting, top campaign aides, including senior adviser DAVID PLOUFFE in this newsletter on Tuesday, have described Harris as the “underdog” against an opponent who will be taking part in his seventh general election debate. But JIM MESSINA, an informal adviser to the Harris campaign, said a solid Harris performance could be decisive with voters trying to assess whether they can see her in the Oval Office — just as it was, Messina recalled, for BARACK OBAMA in his first 2008 debate.

“That race was basically over after the first debate,” he said. “America saw Obama and said, ‘Okay, yes, he can be our president.’”

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POTUS PUZZLER

Who breached President Obama’s first state dinner in 2009?

(Answer at bottom.)

CAMPAIGN HQ

BREAKING FROM THE BOSS: Vice President Harris is planning to propose a smaller increase in the top capital-gains tax rate, a departure from the president’s outlined budget blueprint, WSJ’s ANDREW RESTUCCIA, TARINI PARTI and RICHARD RUBIN report. Multiple Harris advisers have discussed the move behind the scenes in recent days. These advisers believe Biden’s proposal puts the rate too high and that a more modest increase could better encourage entrepreneurial investments and access for small businesses to build capital.

CLOSE AS CAN BE: A new CNN/SSRS poll across six key battleground states found a razor-thin race in the final sprint to November. Vice President Harris holds slight leads in Wisconsin and Michigan, while Donald Trump holds a five-point lead in Arizona. In Georgia, Nevada and Pennsylvania, the two candidates split likely voters almost evenly. And across each swing state, an average of 15 percent of likely voters say they have not yet firmly decided their choice, suggesting they could shift their views on the race as the campaign intensifies.

REMEMBER ‘TWO CORINTHIANS’? A new group is attempting to pull away voters from Donald Trump’s most committed base: white evangelicals. As NPR’s JASON DeROSE reports, the political action committee Evangelicals for Harris is running a series of digital ads, including one that shows an archival video of evangelical preacher BILLY GRAHAM, where he asks, “Have you been to the cross and said ‘Lord, I have sinned’?” It’s juxtaposed with a 2015 video of Trump being asked if he’d ever sought forgiveness from God. “I’m not sure I have. I just, I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t,” Trump responded.

The group is also running an ad on various digital platforms titled “Fruits of the Spirit," featuring the vice president speaking about her beliefs.

TAKE IT FROM ME… One of British Prime Minister KEIR STARMER’s top advisers, DEBORAH MATTINSON, will brief the Harris campaign on the Labour Party’s election-winning strategy, POLITICO Europe’s ESTHER WEBBER and STEFAN BOSCIA report. Mattison will travel to Washington next week, where she will meet with strategists from the campaign and share insight on how the center-left Starmer charged to victory.

Mattinson is a fixture in the U.K. polling scene, known for her work in focus groups under former Prime Ministers TONY BLAIR and GORDON BROWN. As Starmer’s director of strategy for three years prior to his electoral win this year, she stressed the importance of winning back traditional Labour voters who had switched to the Tories under former prime minister BORIS JOHNSON. According to a former colleague, Mattinson is likely to urge Harris’ team to “put the ‘hope and change stuff’ to one side” and focus on her appeal in swing states.

The Oval

A DEVASTATING FIRST DAY BACK: On Wednesday, in what was supposed to be a celebratory first day back to school, another shooting left at least four people dead and approximately 30 injured at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia.

“Jill and I are mourning the deaths of those whose lives were cut short due to more senseless gun violence and thinking of all of the survivors whose lives are forever changed,” President Biden wrote in a statement. “Students across the country are learning how to duck and cover instead of how to read and write. We cannot continue to accept this as normal.”

At a campaign stump in New Hampshire, Vice President Harris also addressed the shooting. “It is outrageous that every day in our country … parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive,” Harris said. “It's senseless. We have to end this epidemic of gun violence in our country once and for all.”

9/11 ANNIVERSARY PLANS: Biden and Harris will travel jointly to Ground Zero next Wednesday (the day after the debate) to mark the 23rd anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, the White House announced on Wednesday. They will also visit the Flight 93 memorial in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, and the Pentagon, visiting all three memorial sites.

JAMES AND MARY ON MIKE AND ANITA: In a Q&A with Puck’s PETER HAMBY, longtime Democratic strategist JAMES CARVILLE said he knew Biden’s campaign was cooked in the first three minutes of his June 27 debate — and discussed why the president’s closest aides were so resistant to calls (including his own) for Biden to step aside.

Carville, who said he hasn’t heard from any Biden aides since the switcheroo, told Hamby that it gave him no pleasure to be so vocal about Biden needing to drop out. Especially given how closely he’s worked with senior adviser MIKE DONILON — he “was literally at my wedding” — former senior adviser ANITA DUNN and counselor to the president STEVE RICHETTI. “They had a different relationship with Biden,” Carville said. “They were more employees than consultants.”

Carville’s wife, GOP strategist MARY MATALIN, tried to put the aides’ reaction in context: “Every good candidate, every good politician, has people whose loyalty is the key to the kingdom. It’s not an employer-employee relationship. It was Donilon’s heart. It’s like the Poppy [aka, GEORGE H.W. BUSH] thing with me. I went down with Poppy. James would’ve gone down with [BILL] CLINTON. You’re not thinking rationally. It’s like your kid or your husband. It’s a completely heartfelt relationship. And my heart still bleeds for Mike. It’s a loyalty thing. People need to understand that.”

TATTE IS SO OVER: Speaking of Dunn, she had breakfast at Cafe Riggs downtown on Wednesday morning with Sen. LAPHONZA BUTLER (D-Calif.), according to a tipster. Chief of staff JEFF ZIENTS was also spotted outside the White House gates, walking out of Teaism with a very large bag of food. We asked if he was stress eating and were told that, no, he’d picked up lunch for several others in the office (the things you do when everyone wants to leave for a job on the campaign!).

A STUNNING REJECTION: President Biden is preparing to announce that he will formally block Japan’s Nippon Steel’s proposed $14.9 billion acquisition of U.S. Steel, WaPo’s DAVID LYNCH and JEFF STEIN report. The Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. has been scrutinizing the deal over potential national security risks.

WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE WANTS YOU TO READ: This piece by Bloomberg’s CHRIS ANSTEY, who writes that a group of Goldman Sachs economists are predicting an economic hit if Donald Trump is elected and an economic boost if Democrats win the trifecta. “We estimate that if Trump wins in a sweep or with a divided government, the hit to growth from tariffs and tighter immigration policy would outweigh the positive fiscal impulse” from maintaining most tax cuts, the economists wrote.

If Harris were to win, “new spending and expanded middle-income tax credits would slightly more than offset lower investment due to higher corporate tax rates,” they wrote. That would result in “a very slight boost to GDP growth on average over 2025-2026.”

Harris communications director KIRSTEN ALLEN shared the news on X, which White House communications director BEN LaBOLT re-posted.

WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE DOESN’T WANT YOU TO READ: This piece by NBC’s JEFF COX, who reports that job openings fell to its lowest level in three and a half years in July, according to a Labor Department survey released Wednesday. The department’s Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey found that available positions fell to 7.67 million, the lowest level since January 2021. It also brings the ratio of job openings per available worker down to less than 1.1, about half where it was from its peak of more than 2 to 1 in early 2022.

The silver lining for the administration: This data gives Federal Reserve officials further ammo to cut interest rates when they meet later this month.

THE BUREAUCRATS

YES, THIS WILL GET ANNOYING: Survivor”’s 47th season premieres on Wednesday, Sept. 18, with “Pod Save America” co-host JON LOVETT among the cast. And the “Survivor” production team is hard at work promoting the new season. On Wednesday, Lovett posted a “get to know me” video on X, introducing himself as a former presidential speechwriter, TV writer and now a podcast host who is “best in small doses.” His words.

In the classic “Survivor” beach-side interview, Lovett said being a speechwriter is about “figuring out the best way to convince a bunch of people to either come along with you, or agree with you,” and that those traits will serve him well in Fiji. “I think that’s a lot of what ‘Survivor’ is. Final tribal … It’s a political campaign, it’s an election.”

This newsletter will definitely not be giving you weekly analysis of Lovett’s performance, because one of the co-authors is definitely not a “Survivor” geek.

PERSONNEL MOVES: Press assistant CHRISTINE THOMPSON is departing the friendly confines of Lower Press for a new post on Capitol Hill, as press secretary KARINE JEAN-PIERRE told reporters at Wednesday’s briefing. She’ll be serving as press secretary under Ranking Member JASON CROW (D-Colo.) on the taskforce investigating the attempted assassination of Trump.

— AARON TRONCOSO is now a policy adviser in the Climate Policy Office of the White House. He most recently was a policy fellow in that office.

ANGELA PEREZ has been promoted to be senior spokesperson at the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative. She continues as press secretary in the office.

LAUREN BROWN is now deputy director of scheduling and advance for the USTR. She previously was a special assistant at the office.

— MARTHA ESPARZA is now a senior policy adviser for inclusive trade policy, population health and strategy at USTR. Esparza was most recently a White House Fellow there.

Agenda Setting

SEEN THIS FILM BEFORE: The Department of Justice has seized more than 30 web domains that it said were part of a broader, ongoing effort by the Russian government to influence the 2024 presidential election and American public opinion, our JOSH GERSTEIN, BETSY WOODRUFF SWAN and MAGGIE MILLER report. The websites were linked to a covert Russian campaign known as “Doppelganger,” one of the most prolific and public campaigns spreading disinformation linked to the Kremlin in recent years.

The legal action, which also included the indictment of two Russian employees of the Russian media outlet RT, underscored warnings earlier this year from the Biden administration that foreign adversaries are seeking to meddle in the election.

LOCKING IT IN: Senior Biden administration officials are considering actions that would make the president’s strict asylum restrictions difficult to lift, NYT’s HAMED ALEAZIZ reports. The changes under consideration would build on the president’s June executive order blocking a vast majority of asylum claims at the border. And it would transform what was supposed to be a short-term fix into a central feature of America’s asylum system.

What We're Reading

The GOP Is Actually Better Off if Kamala Harris Wins (POLITICO’s Jonathan Martin)

How Democrats made Project 2025 one of their top anti-GOP attacks (WaPo’s Ashley Parker and Maeve Reston)

How the Presidential Election Got This Close (NYT’s Thomas B. Edsall)

Why Charlamagne tha God is back on board the Kamala Harris train (POLITICO’s Brakkton Booker)

POTUS PUZZLER ANSWER

Former “Real Housewife of D.C.” MICHAELE SALAHI and her then-husband TAREQ SALAHI successfully snuck into President Obama’s first state dinner, when he welcomed Indian Prime Minister MANMOHAN SINGH in 2009. WaPo at the time described the couple as “polo-playing socialites from Northern Virginia.” Former Secret Service agent EDWIN M. DONOVAN said they were able to get past a checkpoint that “did not follow proper procedures” to determine if the two were actually on the guest list for the dinner.

“On Wednesday, Michaele Salahi's Facebook page included photos of the couple at the dinner, including two pictures with Vice President Joe Biden and another with Rahm Emanuel, the White House chief of staff, who was identified on the page as ‘Ron’ Emanuel,” CNN wrote of the incident.

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