The first debate of 2028

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By Ian Ward

Sen. JD Vance speaks in the spin room following the vice presidential debate.

Sen. JD Vance speaks in the spin room following the vice presidential debate on Tuesday in New York City. | Angelina Katsanis/POLITICO

AFTER TRUMP — Since the start of JD Vance’s vice-presidential campaign this summer, I’ve heard versions of the same wistful complaint from his elite conservative allies: Where is the other side of JD Vance?

Vance’s pugnacious side, they acknowledge, has been on full display — at his campaign rallies, in his combative television interviews and on social media, where he’s leaned into his habit of picking very public fights with his digital antagonists. But where, they wonder, is the side that has made him such an object of such hope and fascination among New Right intellectuals and National Conservative-minded policy wonks, the side that blends an unselfconscious nerdiness with an apparently earnest — if also somewhat naïve — longing to remake the GOP along nationalist and populist lines?

At Tuesday’s debate, Vance gave these supporters a glimpse — if only a very fleeting one — of that side of him. Gone was the cat-lady-bashing, they’re-eating-the-pets MAGA firebrand. Here, at last, was the cerebral and wonky New Right figurehead that has won so many converts among the suit-and-tie-wearing conservative set.

“This was the Vance that energized so many of us,” said Sohrab Ahmari, a conservative journalist and co-editor of the Vance-friendly Compact magazine. “Sophisticated, nimble, possessed of a post-neoliberal theory of bipartisan failure.”

Vance’s debate performance will likely do little to change the dynamics of the presidential race — vice presidential debates rarely do, and snap polls show likely voters rated Tuesday’s debate as a tie. Nor will Vance’s comments during the debate — especially his refusal to admit that Trump lost the 2020 election — overcome Democrats’ suspicion that he is merely presenting a more palatable and polished version of Trump’s anti-democratic extremism.

But after an undeniably rocky start to his campaign, Vance’s debate performance will go a long way toward reinforcing his reputation — which had been somewhat damaged by his early campaign foibles — as the standard-bearer of a new and ascendant brand of conservative populism. Consider Tuesday night’s debate the first stop on the JD Vance rehabilitation tour — or the first Republican primary debate of 2028. Either way, Vance came out ahead.

“Anything can happen, of course, but I think the debate was his coming-out as the future of American conservatism,” said the conservative writer and longtime Vance supporter Rod Dreher.

Vance’s pitch for this future was both stylistic and substantive. Stylistically, Vance came across as even-tempered and erudite — a stark contrast both to his running mate and to his own persona on the campaign trail. His debt to the so-called “reform conservatism” of the 2010s was evident in his attempt to put a more compassionate gloss on his right-leaning economic proposals, if not in the actual substance of those proposals.

Substantively, Vance made his most robust pitch yet for a conservatism that moves beyond the so-called “dead conservative consensus” on trade, foreign policy, economics and the culture war. At the center of this pitch was his broadside against “the experts” who blessed the move toward globalization and economic liberalization that Vance believes is responsible for the decline of American manufacturing and the hollowing out of the middle class. This riff, more than any specific policy proposal, captured the crux of Vance’s political outlook: that America’s problems are the product of a feckless and corrupt elite — but that the solution to those problems is to replace those “the experts” with a better, and presumably more conservative, class of elites.

It was revealing, however, that even the more substantive parts of Vance’s pitch didn’t contain much that’s new. Vance, contrary to the old Republican consensus, argued that the GOP should embrace an active role for government in propagating “pro-family” policies, but his outlines of those policies relied heavily on old-school conservative thinking about leveraging market mechanisms to lower the cost of childcare, among other things. On abortion, Vance frankly acknowledged that Republicans need to “do a much better job at earning the American people’s trust back on this issue” — without acknowledging that his running mate is responsible for creating the post-Dobbs status quo that has undermined Americans’ trust in Republicans in the first place. It was symptomatic of a deeper contradiction in Vance’s pitch: his stated desire to break with the old Republican orthodoxy, but his unwillingness to break with Trump on the points where he plainly represented that old orthodoxy.

In the end, his debate performance underscored the defining question of Vance’s career: Which side of him is in the driver’s seat — the MAGA firebrand or the New Right figurehead? Put another way, is his elaborate performance of conservative populism merely a means to get close to Trump, or is his effort to cozy up to Trump the first step in a longer-term strategy to transform the GOP into the party of national conservatism?

The version of Vance that appeared at the debate was able to persuade his anxious allies that the latter is true — and, in the process, it bolstered his prospects of becoming Trump’s heir apparent in 2028, regardless of what happens in November. But it was, in the end, fleeting: By this afternoon, Vance had reverted to his typical campaign schtick of insulting Harris and teasing Walz at a rally in Michigan. Will the other version of him make another appearance? And will it be able to win any other voters to his side? We may have to wait four more years to find out.

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What'd I Miss?

— Prosecutors say further charges against Eric Adams ‘possible,’ charges against others ‘likely’: New York City Mayor Eric Adams could face more charges in his federal corruption case, prosecutors told a judge this morning. Prosecutor Hagan Scotten of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York told judge Dale Ho it is “possible” prosecutors would file a superseding indictment in the case. Scotten said it is also “likely” additional defendants will be charged. Alex Spiro, the mayor’s private attorney, requested the trial conclude in March — three months before Adams is to appear on a ballot for reelection.

— Election-betting markets poised for revival as court rejects government plea: Political gambling is back on in the U.S., less than five weeks before Election Day. A federal appeals court in Washington today cleared the way for financial exchange startup Kalshi to r evive the first fully regulated election-betting markets in the U.S. The three-judge panel lifted a temporary freeze on the markets while rejecting an emergency bid from Wall Street regulators to halt trading pending a full appeal of a lower-court decision in favor of Kalshi.

— Jack Smith lays out his case against Trump in vivid detail: As his bid to hold on to power in 2020 grew increasingly desperate, Donald Trump pressed Republican Party chair Ronna McDaniel to help promote a false claim that voting machines in Michigan had been manipulated. McDaniel balked. She had spoken to the state’s House speaker, a Republican, who told her the claim was “fucking nuts.” That detail was among a dossier of evidence unfurled today in a newly released legal brief by special counsel Jack Smith. The 165-page filing offers the most detailed look at Smith’s case charging Donald Trump with orchestrating multiple criminal conspiracies in his failed quest to subvert Joe Biden’s victory.

Nightly Road to 2024

DEBATE DROP-OFFThe debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz wasn’t one for the record books. An estimated 43 million people tuned in to watch Vance and Walz square off Tuesday, according to Nielsen, in what was likely the last candidate matchup before the November election. That’s about 15 million fewer than watched the vice presidential debate in 2020 and a 35 percent drop from the number who tuned in last month when Vice President Kamala Harris squared off with former President Donald Trump in their only debate, Nielsen said today.

BACKING THE DOCKWORKERS — Vice President Kamala Harris today embraced striking dockworkers and bashed former President Donald Trump’s labor policies in her first public comments since a work stoppage at ports across the East and Gulf Coasts began Tuesday. She said in a statement that “foreign-owned shipping companies have made record profits” and the union workers “deserve a fair share” of that money. As tens of thousands of members of the International Longshoremen’s Association hit the picket line, Harris also sought to use the moment to draw a contrast with Trump on his labor record.

ON THE GROUND — Vice President Kamala Harris praised the workers straining to “meet the needs of people who must be seen, who must be heard” today as she and President Joe Biden surveyed Hurricane Helene’s path of destruction in separate visits to Georgia and the Carolinas.

Biden flew over toppled trees, twisted metal and towering piles of debris in the normally tourist-friendly downtown of Asheville as he took an aerial tour of some of the hardest-hit parts of North Carolina. Nearly 200 miles to the south in Georgia, Harris was in Augusta, where fallen trees littered the sides of the highway, their trunks cracked like matchsticks.

AROUND THE WORLD

Prime Minister Michel Barnier leaves after delivering a speech to the French Senate.

Prime Minister Michel Barnier leaves after delivering a speech to the French Senate in Paris today. | Thomas Samson/AFP via Getty Images

HACKING AWAY — France’s new government is planning to cut spending by approximately €40 billion and raise taxes to bring in another €20 billion next year in an effort to reduce the country’s massive public debt, government officials said today.

Paris hopes this €60 billion budgetary adjustment will reassure Brussels and financial markets that France is serious about cutting its massive deficit, which is expected to reach 6.1 percent of gross domestic product this year. But draconian cuts could impact businesses and spark widespread protests in France, where people have taken to the streets for less.

While there are no details on the proposed spending cuts, government officials — who spoke on the condition of anonymity in line with standard practice in France — told reporters in a briefing that they are planning to cut approximately €20 billion from ministerial budgets; delay adjusting pension payments for inflation until July; and make spending in the healthcare sector more efficient.

BREXIT TALKS ARE BACK — Keir Starmer and Ursula von der Leyen agreed to hold regular U.K.-EU summits on the future of the cross-Channel relationship. In effect, Brexit talks are back for good.

After their first bilateral meeting since Starmer took power, the European Commission president and British prime minister today promised a renewed “agenda of strengthened cooperation” between Britain and the EU. They just couldn’t quite say what it was for yet. In a joint statement, the pair pledged to meet again later in the autumn to flesh out exactly what they would negotiate about. They also set the stage for “regular EU-U.K. summits at leader-level to oversee the development of the relationship,” aiming to hold the first of what could be many in early 2025.

Nightly Number

$6.6 billion

The amount that OpenAI said today it has raised in a new round of venture capital investments as part of a broader shift by the ChatGPT maker away from its nonprofit roots.

RADAR SWEEP

CERTIFIED CLASSICS — Want an electric car, but also covet one of a certain vintage? In San Francisco, a startup called Kindred Motorworks is trying to combine the two. Through a process called restomodding, the company is updating old cars, changing out their engines, making them more reliable and making them electric. They’re focusing, at the moment, on the Ford Bronco — making it possible to ride around town in a version of an old school, well loved classic that also plugs right into an electric charger. For GQ, Rosecrans Baldwin went to the Kindred Motorworks factory and reported on the effort.

Parting Image

On this date in 2018: Journalist Jamal Khashoggi is killed by Saudi Arabian officials at the Saudi Embassy in Istanbul, Turkey. He's pictured here in a 2014 photo.

On this date in 2018: Journalist Jamal Khashoggi is killed by Saudi Arabian officials at the Saudi Embassy in Istanbul, Turkey. He's pictured here in a 2014 photo. | Hasan Jamali/AP

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