Trudeau’s last shuffle, probably

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Let’s get to it:

→ Cabinet shuffle speculation takes over Ottawa ahead of an apparent caucus rebellion telegraphed well in advance.

→ Former U.S. Ambassador GORDON GIFFIN chats with Playbook ahead of Public Policy Forum U.S. election event.

→ Who’s up, who’s down.

DRIVING THE DAY

Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau arrives for the 19th Francophonie Summit, at the Elysee Palace, in Paris, Friday, Oct. 4, 2024. (AP Photo/Louise Delmotte)

The House returns Monday in what is almost certain to be a week of high drama. | AP

EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE — For a week that started with a news blizzard of mutinous Liberal backbenchers and the expulsion of Indian diplomats, it’s just a little strange that somehow by week’s end, we’re into Cabinet speculation season. Again.

Everyone wants to know when the next shuffle is coming, after it came out four ministers are not running in the next election. The PM is going to want a front bench looking ready to head into the next election.

MARIE-CLAUDE BIBEAU, CARLA QUALTROUGH, FILOMENA TASSI and DAN VANDAL will not seek reelection.

— Outside looking in: The news looks far worse from outside the fishbowl, since Trudeau is on the ropes. But to any Liberals worth their salt, these four names came as no surprise — life circumstances, etc. were the driving force and this was long expected.

Key questions:

→ Are these four the only ones, or are there more announcements waiting in the wings?

→ When exactly will the shuffle come?

→ Why is this story landing now?

Let’s pull out the CHARLIE DAY whiteboard and see if PEPE SILVIA is our next northern affairs minister.

— Occam's razor: “The fact that this [news] came out [now] may be part of a fall strategy,” said McMillan Vantage’s JONATHAN KALLES . “We've seen ANDREW BEVAN and MARJORIE MICHEL go to the campaign. We've seen a bit of a different tone from the prime minister in the last few days. We'll see some new faces probably around Cabinet.”

— Make ’em sweat: On the other hand, it’s hard not to notice the news also comes on the heels of a Schrödinger’s caucus rebellion — that slow-moving, gossip-fueled attempt to push out the leader, with quantity and gusto still unclear.

But very soon — Wednesday’s caucus meet — it’s expected to come to a head.

If PMO wants to pressure disgruntled backbenchers to back down, there’s no reason to announce a shuffle anytime soon — certainly not before the caucus airing of grievances.

Maybe they’re actually in line for a promotion. And if there’s a Cabinet shuffle coming down the pipes, well … any frustrated Cabinet ministers might think carefully about their next words about PMJT.

— Sage words: PMO might want to take its sweet time for more than just that reason.

“When there's this many moving parts, it's incumbent to have a lot of conversations with members of caucus, and don't assume anything in terms of someone's willingness [to stick around],” says GREG MACEACHERN of KAN Strategies.

Some minds may have changed over the past few months (hmm, what happened over the last few months again…).

“There were a couple of weeks near the end of Prime Minister JEAN CHRÉTIEN’s term, where he had to have a couple of small Cabinet shuffles where PAUL MARTIN left Cabinet and then ART EGGLETON,” MacEachern noted, “so you want to really make sure that if you've got to make some decisions, it's going to be a one-and-done situation.”

— Logical places to start speculating: The PM has a habit of promoting people who were in the finance parliamentary secretary role. See: FRANÇOIS-PHILIPPE CHAMPAGNE, GINETTE PETITPAS TAYLOR, SEAN FRASER, TERRY BEECH, etc.

Those folks would be: RACHEL BENDAYAN and RYAN TURNBULL.

— But also …: Someone like Manitoba MP TERRY DUGUID. Regional balance matters a lot in these calculations, and there are only four Liberal MPs from that province.

Are you a likely Cabinet contender, or do you know someone who is? Are you KATIE TELFORD? Feel free to kick Playbook some names .

— Timing options: A shuffle in the “coming weeks” is Ottawa-ese for: we’re not saying when, lol.

In the shorter term, the PM could still decide to pull the trigger ahead of next week and quickly fill up some Cabinet slots.

Mid-term would land sometime around the U.S. election, which is one — but by no means the only — calculation in the equation.

“I don't think a U.S. election would dictate the timing of a shuffle, per se, but that's certainly a consideration,” one Liberal source said on background.

— Check the calendar: “My guess is we'll get to the next break week, which is Remembrance Day week, which is also right after the U.S. election,” said Kalles. “And I suspect if there's going to be a change this fall, that's likely to be when you would see it.”

There’s also that matter of our teetering Jenga Parliament. Four oppo days left, one NDP and three Conservative before Dec. 10. But the government controls when the op-days fall.

— Longer term outlook: … when they get around to it.

 

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Where the leaders are


— Prime Minister JUSTIN TRUDEAU meets with union members somewhere in the GTA.

— Deputy PM CHRYSTIA FREELAND is in Calgary meeting with “energy sector leaders.”

— Playbook does not have lines of sight into the mysterious schedules of Conservative Leader PIERRE POILIEVRE, Bloc Leader YVES-FRANÇOIS BLANCHET and NDP Leader JAGMEET SINGH.

— Green Leader ELIZABETH MAY has no public engagements in her calendar.

HALLWAY CONVERSATION

ATLANTA, GA - JUNE 15:  Ambassador Gordon Giffin speaks at 'The Board of Directors of the Canadian American Business Council Presents A Converation With Jimmy Carter and Joe Clark' at The Carter Center on June 15, 2017 in Atlanta, Georgia.  (Photo by Rick Diamond/Getty Images for Canadian American Business Council)

"We're headed towards a disputed election only because the Trump side is going to dispute no matter what the margins are," former U.S. Ambassador Gordon Giffin says.

PREVIEW OF THE PREVIEW In six days, former U.S. ambassadors to Canada KELLY CRAFT and GORDON GIFFIN will go toe to toe at a POLITICO Canada/Public Policy Forum event over what the next U.S. administration will mean for Canada.

They’re among several high-profile speakers at the event, which, hint, hint, you can still register for, but space is limited.

Playbook connected with Giffin ahead of the talk. This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

We're down to about two and a half weeks left to E-Day. What strikes you most about the race at this point?

According to most of the credible polling this moment, it appears to be extraordinarily and maybe even historically close on the presidential level.

What’s the big unanswered question for you about what happens next?

If you assume Harris is elected, I think the opportunities for reinvigorated collaboration between Canada and the United States are there.

Right now, all of the senior U.S. policymakers have been largely distracted with challenges in other parts of the globe — Ukraine, Middle East, China. The thinking and policy focus really hasn't been on North America. We have the opportunity to get back to the conversation about the North American community, not to the exclusion of the broader global concerns, but to give it a little more vibrancy and consideration in Washington.

In a Trump administration … I don't think the Canada-U.S. relationship will be in the dumper. I don't think it'll be in any way threatened. It'll just be more difficult. And in both instances, I think it requires a strong, focused Canadian initiative to drive specific policy outcomes. I don't think the U.S. will be the source of the thinking on how to advance the relationship.

Are we headed toward another disputed election?

We're headed towards a disputed election only because the Trump side is going to dispute no matter what the margins are.

You know, I'm setting myself up to look like a fool, but I'm doing a number of programs these days on the situation and I tend to conclude by saying: I actually think, when it's all said and done, that the margin is going to be greater than the current polling indicates — meaning that Harris wins by a margin that's almost indisputable.

If Trump loses Georgia and North Carolina, those are states that people don't expect him to lose, and they're basically controlled by Republicans. So, it's a pretty tough argument to say that there was some conspiracy to defraud Donald Trump and states run by Republicans. If that happens, I think the disputes — meaning Georgia, North Carolina, or one of them — are the margin. That'll be awfully important, not only to the math, but to the psychology.

Former ambassador KELLY CRAFT is going to be on stage with you. What question would you most like her to answer?

I would like her to answer why, after the experience that we've had with Mr. Trump over the last three years and in the face of the rhetoric that he's been using over the course of the last three weeks, why … she thinks he's qualified to be president …

Kelly Craft and I are friends. I endorsed her nomination for the U.N. when she was nominated ambassador, because the Democrats were in control of the Senate, and she needed some support from Democrats, and so I spoke up for her when she was nominated.

We obviously don't agree on who ought to be president of the United States, but we have the kind of relationship that Democrats and Republicans used to have: We're friends, we just disagree.

That's so refreshing.

We’ll get back there. There's one individual who is between us and that, and I think we're gonna relegate him to the history books in about two weeks.

— Note to Pro subscribers: POLITICO Pro will publish the policy side of that chat later today, so stay tuned.

WHO'S UP, WHO'S DOWN


Up: The buzz and backchannel chatter on a difficult-to-parse Liberal caucus rebellion.

Down: PIERRE POILIEVRE, whose negative impressions are on the rise, according to Abacus Data polling.

MEDIA ROOM

— AP’s ERIC TUCKER and LARRY NEUMEISTER report the Justice Department is charging an Indian government employee in “connection with a foiled plot to kill a Sikh separatist leader living in New York City.”

HOLLY CABRERA reports for CBC News that MICHAEL CHONG says it was inappropriate for the PM to make partisan points and “smear” the Tories during his testimony.

— The top of SCOTT MOE’s to-do list: bring in a change room policy for schools, writes the Regina Leader-Post’s ALEC SALLOUM.

— The Globe’s IAN BAILEY writes a majority of Canadians worry immigration is too high, according to an Environics poll.

— By CTV’s ERIKA MORRIS: “Quebec health minister scraps family doctor reallocation idea.

PLAYBOOKERS


Birthdays: The late IONA CAMPAGNOLO was born this day, as was TRUDEAU SR.

Saturday: EnterpriseHealth consultant KEVIN DEN HEIJER and Crestview VP FRANK PARKER.

Sunday: JULIE PAYETTE, MP BOB ZIMMER, former MP NINA GREWAL and Crestview birthday buddies GINNY ROTH and ASHTON ARSENAULT.

Got a document to share? A birthday coming up? Send deets.

Spotted: PIERRE POILIEVRE in a bow tie.

Canada’s ambo to the U.N. BOB RAE clapping back at ELON MUSK.

BILL BLAIR at the Northern Defence Dialogue in Brussels alongside NATO counterparts.

PERRIN BEATTY honored with a new Chamber award bearing his name.

Noted: CATHERINE MCKENNEY eyeing the NDP nomination for Ottawa Centre. H/T JOANNE CHIANELLO.

Movers and shakers: McMillan Vantage picked up LAURA KURKIMAKI while Oyster Group nabbed SHAKIR CHAMBERS, both previously with Earnscliffe.

PROZONE


For POLITICO Pro subscribers, our latest policy newsletter: Add a Cabinet shuffle to the Ottawa whirlwind.

Trump hints at Cabinet picks on campaign trail.

Trump’s rambling, jumbled answer on climate.

DOE floats $3B loans to boost low-carbon aviation fuel.

Carbon markets — safe from possible Trump attack — could expand.

California moves toward permanent salmon protections.

 

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