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POLITICO'S West Wing Playbook: Transition of Power

By Lauren Egan, Eli Stokols, Lisa Kashinsky, Megan Messerly and Ben Johansen

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RIO DE JANEIRO — Since arriving in South America last week, President JOE BIDEN has gone before microphones to talk about the importance of international cooperation fighting climate change, the need to back Ukraine and the importance of stability in the China-U.S. relationship. But get him in front of reporters asking questions and he won’t say more than a word.

He went to two international summits and said no more than one word — “peacefully” in response to a question about dealing with North Korea — to reporters, many of whom were itching to ask about DONALD TRUMP.

Prior to the election, Biden was eager to talk about the existential threat that the president-elect posed to American democracy and the nightmarish future he said would follow if Trump ever returned to the Oval Office. But since Nov. 5, he’s had little to say on the subject.

Biden’s long-running reluctance to engage with the White House press corps became more pronounced this week as he’s ducked repeated questions from reporters itching to ask him about Trump’s return. During a six-day international trip, he answered just a single question from reporters.

It is starting to seem like he would just rather not confront uncomfortable questions about democracy or what he thinks of the president-elect’s promises to gut the Inflation Reduction Act, pull out of the Paris climate accord, end support for Ukraine and deport migrants. His aides also don’t seem eager to talk about Trump’s presence at the international summits and how world leaders are already moving on from the Biden presidency.

At the APEC summit in Peru last week, Biden did not respond when a reporter asked what he told his counterparts about the impending second Trump administration. He gave a tight-lipped smile when he was later asked his message to allies about his successor.

During his visit on Sunday to the Amazon rainforest, he ignored pleas from the traveling press corps to talk. Even a handwritten sign, held up by the traveling TV producer as he boarded Air Force One, asking him to answer foreign policy questions on Ukraine and China’s XI JINPING — topics he is sometimes more keen on discussing — did not do the trick.

When he landed Sunday evening in Rio de Janeiro for the annual G20 meeting, there was only one question left to ask. “Why are you hiding from the press, Sir?” an exasperated reporter shouted after him as he loaded into his motorcade.

Although Biden has delivered a number of scripted remarks since the election — including a Rose Garden address 30 hours after the race was called for Trump, in which he reassured the country that “we’re going to be OK” — he’s declined to hold a post-election news conference, as Presidents BARACK OBAMA and GEORGE W. BUSH  did when they were in office. He did not schedule a news conference after he met with Xi on the sidelines of APEC, as he did the previous two times he’s met in-person with the Chinese leader since he took office in 2021. And he left the G20 meeting and Rio without a press conference.

Biden has not responded to questions from reporters in a substantive way since the election. Asked as he was leaving church on Saturday, Nov. 9, if Trump was still a threat to democracy, Biden replied: “I’m going to see him on Wednesday.” When another reporter asked this past Saturday how the U.S. and China would address North Korea ahead of his meeting with Xi, Biden gave a one-word reply: “peacefully.”

The White House has defended Biden’s lack of engagement. Senior deputy press secretary ANDREW BATES said in a statement that Biden “engages with the press extensively — including through over 630 Q&As in office and over 50 interviews this year.” On the flight to Peru, press secretary KARINE JEAN-PIERRE noted that Trump did not host a post-election news conference after he lost in 2020. She also said Biden “regularly takes questions from all of you, and he is going to continue to engage with the press. … Stay tuned. He will continue to do that.”

But suggestions that he would interact with the press corps while in South America did not come to fruition.

The White House has instead offered up a smattering of administration officials to speak to the press corps throughout the president’s foreign trip, most of whom have only done so under the condition of anonymity and not on the record or on camera.

Many of them have tried to downplay the role that Trump has played in the president’s conversations with foreign leaders.

After Biden’s meeting with the Japanese prime minister and South Korean president, a senior administration official, granted anonymity to speak about the discussion, said the “president-elect’s name did not come up.” Asked by another official if Trump was discussed in the president’s meeting with the Peruvian leader, the official said: “Not explicitly, no.”

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POTUS PUZZLER

Which president was the first to deliver an inaugural address?

(Answer at bottom.)

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THE BUREAUCRATS

WHAT SCOTT BESSENT WANTS YOU TO READ: On Tuesday, Trump named transition co-chair HOWARD LUTNICK as his Commerce secretary, our MERIDITH McGRAW, ELEANOR MUELLER and MICHAEL STRATFORD report. A longtime friend of Trump and CEO of the financial services firm Cantor Fitzgerald, Lutnick has taken the lead on vetting candidates throughout the transition process, focusing largely on loyalty and business experience.

He had been in the running for Treasury secretary, but the president-elect soured on Lutnick due to infighting between him and other prominent candidates for the job — particularly financier SCOTT BESSENT.

SOMEONE GET HER AN APPLE: Trump transition co-chair LINDA McMAHON is expected to be named Education secretary, CNN’s KRISTEN HOLMES and KAITLAN COLLINS report. The decision took shape after it became clear that McMahon would be passed over for Commerce. But hey, at least she's in the Cabinet ... even if Trump has vowed to shut down the very department she's supposed to lead.

IS DR. PHIL NEXT? JUDGE JUDY, PERHAPS? Trump chose celebrity physician Dr. MEHMET OZ to serve as the administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, our BEN LEONARD reports. Just a reminder: During the pandemic, Oz pushed unproven theories about Covid-19 cures — including hydroxychloroquine, which caught Trump's attention.

OH, AND ICYMI: Trump tapped former lawmaker and Fox News contributor SEAN DUFFY as his Transportation secretary on Monday night.

CONFIRMATION WATCH: Numerous Republican lawmakers have told Trump and his team that his nominee for attorney general — the controversial MATT GAETZ, who has been accused of having sex with a 17-year-old — has little chance of being confirmed, our RACHAEL BADE reports. That message has been delivered to the president-elect himself, his future chief of staff SUSIE WILES and Vice President-elect JD VANCE. And it appears to be at least partially sinking in.

The House Ethics Committee is scheduled to vote Wednesday on whether to share its investigative findings into the allegations against Gaetz. The panel is evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats, and it only requires a majority vote in the private meeting to release the report. (But we expect the House to eventually leak the report anyway.)

THE RFK JR. EFFECT: Trump wasn’t kidding when he said he’d let ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. “go wild” on health policy. As our ADAM CANCRYN and DAVID LIM report, the transition team has accelerated efforts to fill several high-profile health jobs, eyeing a shortlist of controversial Kennedy allies and public health contrarians to lead key HHS posts.

  • JOSEPH LADAPO, who as Florida’s top health official questioned the safety of Covid vaccines and repeatedly resisted public health recommendations, is a leading contender for a senior role in HHS. Advisers are debating whether he should be CDC director, surgeon general or Kennedy’s assistant secretary for Health.
  • CASEY MEANS, a former surgeon turned wellness influencer, is also under consideration to serve as surgeon general or assistant secretary for Health. Means’ brother, CALLEY MEANS, has been widely discussed as Kennedy’s likely chief of staff.
  • John Hopkins surgeon MARTY MAKARY is the team’s primary target for FDA commissioner, while Stanford University physician and economist JAY BHATTACHARYA is a leading candidate to head the National Institutes of Health. 
  • VINAY PRASAD, a health researcher who’s risen in conservative circles by opposing key parts of the pandemic response, is also being considered for surgeon general.

PROJECT 2025?? NEVER HEARD OF HER: Trump is considering giving RUSSELL VOUGHT, his previous Office of Management and Budget director, his old job back, our GAVIN BADE, David Lim and BETSY WOODRUFF SWAN report. Vought, a prominent contributor to the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 initiative, has been working behind the scenes for months to help draft Trump’s economic and trade agenda.

TWO MORE NAMES FOR AGRICULTURE: Trump is considering a former GOP lieutenant governor of California and a former USDA official from his first term to serve as his next Agriculture secretary, our MEREDITH LEE HILL reports. ABEL MALDONADO was former California Republican Gov. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER’s No. 2. RAY STERLING was the chief of staff to Trump’s first Agriculture secretary, SONNY PERDUE.

Some Trump officials argue that Sterling is a safer pick and could reassure some conservative-leaning agriculture groups that have been rattled by the RFK Jr. pick to lead HHS. Texas Agriculture Commissioner SID MILLER, former U.N. food official KIP TOM and longtime Trump ally and donor CHARLES HERBSTER are also still under consideration for the role.

BACKING UP HEGSETH: Two seasoned insiders are in the running to be deputy Defense secretary: former Veterans Affairs Secretary ROBERT WILKIE and former Pentagon No. 2 DAVID NORQUIST, our PAUL McLEARY, JACK DETSCH, CONNOR O’BRIEN and JOE GOULD report.

Defeated U.S. Senate candidate HUNG CAO, a retired Navy captain, has been floated for multiple roles, including deputy Defense secretary and Navy secretary.

Also being considered for Navy secretary: Rep. MIKE GARCIA (R-Calif.), who was narrowly defeated in a bid to retain his battleground California House seat, and Rep. RONNY JACKSON (R-Texas), who was Trump’s chief medical adviser during his first term.

Former Utah Rep. CHRIS STEWART is in the mix to be Trump’s Air Force secretary.

Agenda Setting

THINGS ARE GETTING REAL: Trump — the only president to have been charged with mishandling classified information — has begun receiving intelligence briefings, WaPo’s ELLEN NAKASHIMA and TYLER PAGER report. The briefings provided by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence began shortly after the election.

Trump declined classified briefings during the campaign, saying he feared being accused of leaking classified secrets.

IN THAT SAME VEIN ... Several Democrats and intelligence professionals have raised alarm bells over Trump’s choice for DNI: TULSI GABBARD. They’re criticizing her sympathetic views towards VLADIMIR PUTIN and meetings with authoritarian presidents like Syria’s BASHAR AL-ASSAD.

Late Monday, Rep. ABIGAIL SPANBERGER (D-Va.) expressed concern over Gabbard delivering Trump’s daily briefing: “She tweets Russian propaganda. Why not include it in the presidential daily brief?”

 

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POTUS PUZZLER ANSWER

President GEORGE WASHINGTON established the tradition of the inaugural address on April 30, 1789. After taking the presidential oath of office in New York City, he gave a speech to members of Congress and invited dignitaries inside the Senate chamber, according to the White House Historical Association.

To learn more about the history of presidential inaugurations, check out the 75th issue of White House History Quarterly “Inaugural Traditions,” available on Nov. 19.

Thanks to the White House Historical Association for this question!

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