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POLITICO'S West Wing Playbook: Transition of Power

By Alice Miranda Ollstein, Eli Stokols, Lisa Kashinsky, Megan Messerly and Ben Johansen

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Federal officials say they’re worried about sharing documents via e-mail with DONALD TRUMP’s transition team because the incoming officials are eschewing government devices, email addresses and cybersecurity support, raising fears that they could potentially expose sensitive government data.

The private emails have agency employees considering insisting on in-person meetings and document exchanges that they otherwise would have conducted electronically, according to two federal officials granted anonymity to discuss a sensitive situation. Their anxiety is particularly high in light of recent hacking attempts from China and Iran that targeted Trump, Vice President-elect JD VANCE and other top officials.

“I can assure you that the transition teams are targets for foreign intelligence collection,” said MICHAEL DANIEL, a former White House cyber coordinator who now leads the nonprofit online security organization Cyber Threat Alliance. “There are a lot of countries out there that want to know: what are the policy plans for the incoming administration?”

Trump — who attacked his then-opponent HILLARY CLINTON over her use of a private email server for official business during his first presidential run — is overseeing a fully privatized transition that communicates from an array of @transition47.com, @trumpvancetransition.com and @djtfp24.com accounts rather than anything ending in .gov, and uses private servers, laptops and cell phones instead of government-issued devices.

This break with tradition stems from the Trump team forgoing federal funding and the ethics and transparency requirements that come with it.

While it’s unclear how the decision is impacting a transition that is already behind, with fewer than five weeks remaining until Inauguration Day, one person familiar with the collaboration between the Biden administration and the Trump transition team, granted anonymity to discuss sensitive discussions, said it is further hampering the process. 

The dynamic is slowing efforts to share government materials with members of Trump’s landing teams, the person said, referring to the groups of transition officials assigned to meet with federal agencies ahead of the inauguration.

The White House has sent guidance to federal agencies to be cautious when communicating with the Trump transition, a spokesperson said, reminding them that they can elect to “only offer in person briefings and reading rooms in agency spaces” if they’re uncomfortable sending something electronically.

They also advised federal employees that they can require transition officials to “attest” that their private technology complies with government security standards.

“Because they don’t have official emails, people are really wary to share things,” said a State Department employee granted anonymity to discuss private conversations. “I’m not going to send sensitive personnel information to some server that lives at Mar-a-Lago while there are so many fears of doxxing and hacking. So they have to physically come and look at the documents on campus, especially for anything with national security implications.”

The Trump transition confirmed their reliance on private emails, with spokesperson BRIAN HUGHES saying in a statement that “all transition business is conducted on a transition-managed email server.”

“We have implemented plans to communicate information securely as necessary,” he added, but declined to say what those plans entail. In a statement in late November, transition co-chair SUSIE WILES similarly cited unspecified “security and information protections” the team has in place, arguing that they replace the need for “additional government and bureaucratic oversight.”

The transition’s landing teams began arriving this week at some government agencies — more than a month later than past administrations have deployed them — to get up to speed on all of the resources and problems they will soon inherit. It’s a particularly vulnerable time for national security, stressed Daniel, adding that by rejecting government transition support, the Trump team is also opening themselves up to hacking once they’re in power.

“Once someone gets access to some of their information, they can think of ways to send better phishing emails down the road, because they learn more about you,” he explained. “And if you bring that device into a government space, hook it up to a government network, and access it through that account, they're able to steal your credentials and use that to log on and look like you — look like a legitimate user — and it becomes much harder to detect from a security standpoint.”

History is rife with examples of crises that came early in a new administration and were made worse by challenges passing information from an outgoing to an incoming president and his team, from the botched Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba in the 1960s to the Waco standoff in the 1990s.

CUNY John Jay College associate professor HEATH BROWN, who wrote a book about JOE BIDEN's transition, said modern technology only makes that dynamic more risky and complicated.

“In 2020, it was maybe the single most important worry of the transition team, that they would be hacked, and all of this information, including intelligence information, personnel information about job applicants, the whole procedure would be threatened if there was a hack of the transition team,” Brown said. “The [General Services Administration] is in a position to help with that, but saying no to that help raises questions about whether they have put in place a secure system, as is needed in these situations.”

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What was ABRAHAM LINCOLN’s Christmas present in 1864?

(Answer at bottom.)

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THE BUREAUCRATS

COME FLY WITH ME: The landing team for the Department of Transportation is starting to take shape, our CHRIS MARQUETTE and ORIANA PAWLYK report. The team includes an official from the first Trump term, BRIGHAM McCOWN, and ANDREW GIACINI, a former aide to the chair of the House Transportation Committee.

McCown was one of the original leaders in the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration during the GEORGE W. BUSH White House and worked as a senior adviser to former DOT Secretary ELAINE CHAO. Giacini had a stint in government relations for the FAA and worked on drafting the 2024 FAA reauthorization law under House Transportation Committee Chair SAM GRAVES (R-Mo.).  

THE PRE-HOLIDAYS SPRINT: Several Trump nominees were on the Hill today, making their pitches to senators who will be tasked with vetting the records of the president-elect’s Cabinet. SCOTT BESSENT, the president-elect's pick to be Treasury secretary, met with both Republican and Democratic senators, including Sens. MITCH McCONNELL (R-Ky.), LISA MURKOWSKI (R-Alaska), MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.) and ELIZABETH WARREN (D-Mass.)

HHS secretary nominee ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR., FBI director nominee KASH PATEL and Labor secretary nominee LORI CHAVEZ-DeREMER were also back on the Hill before the holiday break.

SPEAKING OF BOBBY: Republican senators are talking up Kennedy, expressing optimism about him leading the government’s health agencies. His confirmation is not assured, but Republicans who spoke with POLITICO downplayed their policy differences with him to focus on one area of shared agreement: overhauling the public health bureaucracy, our DANIEL PAYNE, CHELSEA CIRRUZZO, BEN LEONARD and ROBERT KING report.

“Bobby’s going to get confirmed,” said Sen. MARKWAYNE MULLIN (R-Okla.). “The more you talk to him, the more he explains it, the more you like him.”

STRIKE THE POSE: Trump said Tuesday night that he will tap HERSCHEL WALKER to be his ambassador to the Bahamas, our EMMY MARTIN reports. Walker, a former NFL running back and close ally of the president-elect, lost a closely watched 2022 Georgia Senate race to Sen. RAPHAEL WARNOCK (D-Ga.). In a post announcing Walker as his pick, Trump said, “A successful businessman, philanthropist, former Heisman Trophy winner, and NFL great, Herschel has been a tireless advocate for youth sports.”

Walker has no previous diplomatic experience or known ties to the Bahamas.

Trump also announced NICOLE McGRAW as the next ambassador to Croatia, describing her as “a philanthropist, businesswoman and World renowned art collector.”

 

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Agenda Setting

ONE FINAL PLEA: The Supreme Court said Wednesday that it will consider whether a looming ban on TikTok in the U.S. violates the First Amendment, our CHRISTINE MUI and JOSH GERSTEIN report. The high court put the case on an unusually accelerated timeline, agreeing to hear arguments on Jan. 10 — nine days before a law takes effect that would force a ban of the app or require the Chinese-owned company to sell it.

Still, it’s not clear how quickly the court will rule. Trump, who vowed to “save TikTok” during his campaign and claimed this week he has “a warm spot in my heart for TikTok,” could take several paths to try to block the ban.

FED CUTS TO SLOW: The Federal Reserve cut interest rates again on Wednesday by a quarter point but signaled that it will lower borrowing costs more slowly in 2025, saying it expects inflation to get a bit worse before it gets better, our VICTORIA GUIDA reports for Pro subscribers. In their quarterly economic projections, central bank officials penciled in two rate cuts in the new year — two fewer than they had projected in September — and became more pessimistic about prices.

They expect their preferred inflation gauge to rise by 2.5 percent next year, a jump from their prior estimate.

STAY CALM. EVERYBODY STAY CALM. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed its first severe case of bird flu in a person, our LAUREN GARDNER and MARCIA BROWN report for Pro subscribers. A woman in Louisiana was hospitalized with what health officials are saying were “severe” symptoms after interacting with an infected backyard bird flock.

Officials aren’t changing their risk assessment for the general public. The threat is low, they maintain, though several public health experts — including Trump’s first surgeon general — note that the next few months are critical to containing the outbreak.

HHS spokesperson JEFF NESBIT said Trump’s transition team lead for the department has had an initial discussion with current officials about avian flu and briefings will begin in earnest next week.

 

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The Durbin-Marshall Credit Card Bill threatens valuable rewards like cash-back and airline miles at a time when Americans need them the most. According to a recent US News survey, 68% of Americans are worried about affording gifts for loved ones this holiday season. With inflation and rising costs weighing heavily, 55% of Americans plan to use credit card rewards to cover groceries, gifts, and travel. Instead of cutting off a vital source of financial support, Senators Durbin and Marshall should focus on helping families find relief and joy during the holiday season.

 
POTUS PUZZLER ANSWER

The city of Savannah, Georgia. In 1864, Union general WILLIAM T. SHERMAN set out from Atlanta with his eye set on capturing the southern port of Savannah. Sherman arrived outside of Savannah in mid-December and conveyed a message to Confederate Gen. WILLIAM HARDEE, the man who had set up a defense of the city, instructing him to surrender. Hardee’s forces fled and shortly thereafter, the mayor of Savannah gave up the city.

Sherman telegraphed the following message to Lincoln: “I beg to present you as a Christmas gift the City of Savannah, with one hundred and fifty guns and plenty of ammunition, also about twenty-five thousand bales of cotton.”

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