5 questions for the Chamber of Progress' Adam Kovacevich

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By Derek Robertson

Adam Kovacevich.

Adam Kovacevich.

Hello, and welcome to this week’s installment of the Future in Five Questions. To kick off the new year DFD put the questionnaire to Adam Kovacevich, the founder of the liberal pro-tech Chamber of Progress, who argued in a recent X thread that the more adversarial approach to the tech industry taken by President Joe Biden’s administration was politically counterproductive. Kovacevich spoke about why Democrats should be techno-optimists, why his vision of Democratic pro-competition policy looks very different from that of the Biden administration, and his excitement about the “abundance agenda.” An edited and condensed version of the conversation follows:

What’s one underrated big idea?

Technology optimism. Too many Democratic politicians and elites responded to the 2016 election results by turning against the tech industry, but outside the D.C. bubble the reality is that Americans hold tech companies and services in high regard. Tech has already made it possible to access university libraries at your fingertips or get anything delivered to your door in two days. Now it’s applying AI to help dyslexic students read and make driverless cars a reality. Policymakers are much more pessimistic about tech than most Americans, but tech is making our society better in so many ways.

What’s a technology that you think is overhyped?

Smart cities. Most governmental efforts to build technology into city infrastructure have failed due to cost and poor execution. But the reality is that private sector services have achieved a lot of smart city goals. Waze proved that crowdsourcing traffic data was faster and cheaper than installing smart traffic sensors and signage. Tesla’s electric vehicle charging network is speeding EV adoption. Lime scooters have been more popular than city-subsidized bike-shares.

What book most shaped your conception of the future?

Permissionless Innovation” by Adam Thierer. It pains me to hear Democratic politicians say Europe is “leading” in tech regulation. The fact that America has produced all of the world’s leading tech services is all the evidence you need that American tech policy has struck the right balance. A big part of that is us giving founders and engineers the freedom to innovate without having to first get government permission. Regulation is important, but it’s far better to police tech’s harms and excesses as they emerge rather than try to do it preemptively.

What could the government be doing regarding technology that it isn’t?

Genuine pro-competition policy. The neo-Brandeisian regulators in the Biden administration have been more anti-industry than pro-competition. They should have supported Airbnb’s challenges to the hotel industry, supported crypto and fintech’s challenges to Wall Street, supported satellite internet to challenge telecom incumbents, and supported fair use and Section 230 to help startups in artificial intelligence and social networking. Instead, they promoted increased regulation, which actually entrenched incumbents over challengers.

What has surprised you the most this year?

The excitement and energy in the abundance movement. It’s been exciting to see people build on the writing of Ezra Klein, Derek Thompson, Matt Yglesias, Steven Teles, Jerusalem Demsas — and the work of Institute for Progress and the Niskanen Center — and see it cohere into an “abundance faction” on the center-right and center-left. We need more housing, more energy, more care and more innovation — and blue cities and states need to make it easier to build.

maga meta

GOP political consultant Alex Bruesewitz speaks with the media.

GOP political consultant Alex Bruesewitz speaks with the media at Trump National Golf Club Bedminster on June 13, 2023, in Bedminster, New Jersey. | Ted Shaffrey/AP

A prominent MAGA influencer got an early preview of Meta’s new policies aimed at winning over right-leaning users.

POLITICO’s Dasha Burns spoke today with Alex Bruesewitz, a Gen Z “America First” influencer, who said the company asked to “run some ideas” by him ahead of the rollout.

“I think some of Mark Zuckerberg's right-wing arc began after Elon purchased X. I think Elon certainly had an influence over a lot of decisions that Mark is now making just because of how popular Elon's become,” Bruesewitz said. “Mark seems to be a guy that follows the trend. I hope that he also has some principles and some values. I hope this anti-censorship approach doesn't go away if Republicans in power go away.”

Some conservative users believe their posts were unfairly censored or limited by companies like Meta, and that it’s too early to tell if these changes will rebuild that lost trust despite how important social media has become to politics. “My company has probably invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into building Facebook pages over the last couple of years, and then all of a sudden we can't reach anybody. They took our money, and then we can't even reach anybody,” he said. “I think conservatives want Facebook to be free and fair, but I don't know if they’ll believe them right away.”

This afternoon, the New York Times' Mike Isaac and Kate Conger reported on X that the company would end a series of diversity, equity and inclusion-related hiring practices.

musk's push in germany

Elon Musk hosted the far-right Alternative for Germany’s leader for a chat on X yesterday, and weirdness predictably ensued.

POLITICO’s Tim Ross and Nette Nöstlinger reported on some of the most notable moments from the conversation between Musk and Alice Weidel, which comes after Musk aggressively stumped for AfD in Germany’s upcoming elections — drawing scrutiny from European regulators for potentially using his platform to tilt the scales in that party’s favor.

Some highlights from the talk: Musk incorrectly pronouncing her name as “Vee-dle” (in German it would be “vy-dull”); Weidel denouncing Adolf Hitler as “a communist and socialist guy”; and Weidel claiming that Hitler, whose party won a democratic election in 1933, would never have gained power if he hadn’t “switched off free speech,” a clear nod to one of Musk’s professed pet political issues.

On a more serious note, the two discussed the wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, and their potential for erupting into nuclear conflict. Weidel expressed her hope that President-elect Donald Trump will “end that terrible war” in Ukraine, with Musk reassuring her, “I think President Trump is going to solve that conflict very quickly.”

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